Hybrid Myths and Their Rebuttals

The Hybrid Battery will die after 6 years.

 

http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsynergyview/2006/fall/battery.html

These are a few choice snippets from the page:

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Do the high-voltage batteries ever need to be checked or serviced by the owner or by a dealer?
No, there is no scheduled maintenance for the batteries.

 

 

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How long do the high-voltage batteries last?
We designed them to last for the life of the vehicle. We're aware of owners who have racked up a quarter-million miles without replacing the batteries.

 

 

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What would it cost to replace a complete battery pack?
Less than $3000, plus labor.

 

 

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How long is the warranty?
The high-voltage batteries are warranted for eight years or 100,000 miles, and under California regulations the battery warranty extends to 10 years or 150,000 miles.

The Prius battery pack is warranted to 100,000 miles.  When the battery pack was tested by a third-party institute, they stopped testing after 100,000 miles and determined that there was no significant deterioration in the pack's ability to retain and discharge an electrical charge.  There are already Prii with more than 100,000 miles and a few with more than 250,000 miles.  So far, no malfunctions have been reported.

 

 
   

The Hybrid Battery will cost at least $6,000 to replace

 

Prius owners who have been in serious accidents requiring a new battery have reported that the cost of replacing the battery pack is $2,400.00.

 

 
   

There are so few hybrids on the road, it’s just not worth it.

 

Well now that just doesn't make sense.

To argue that something not currently popular is not worth the effort based solely on the fact that it’s not popular is in itself a self-fulfilling prophesy. American history is full of changes brought about by things which were not popular at the time: horseless carriages used to not be popular, personal computers used to be bulky, VCRs used to cost thousands of dollars. 

It's true that if one person can trade in their 25 MPG Buick Regal for a 50 MPG Prius, they will have no major affect on national oil consumption. If, however, every American driver doubled their mileage – halving their consumption – that’s a major impact. And it will happen one person at a time.

 

 
   

Hybrids are not reliable and require constant maintenance and repair.

 

Click [HERE] for the Prius service guide.  You will notice that there is no reference to service for the hybrid system.

These links point directly to reviews of the Toyota Prius:
JD Powers and Associates 2007 Toyota Prius Touring Reliability Ratings
Toyota Prius Ranked Top Compact Car in J.D. Power IQS Automotive.com General Review
Automotive.com Crash Test Report  

 
 

 

 

Hybrids do not pay for themselves in the long-run.

 

No mass-produced vehicle in the history of the automobile has ever been held to the expectation of paying for itself. There is no reason to expect for the Prius to exceed expectations no other vehicle has ever achieved.

Most people do not buy the Prius as a financial investment. Most people buy the Prius as an investment in the reduction of addiction to foreign oil. Most people buy the Prius as an investment in reduced emissions.

There are numerous other cars with the same base price as the Toyota Prius. None of these vehicles are expected to pay for themselves.

When some people calculate the “pay-back” period for the “Hybrid Premium” the use a gas price of $2.00 per gallon. Now that gasoline exceeds $3.00 per gallon in the summer and lowers to prices still higher than $2.00 per gallon, those people really need to recalculate.

 
 

 

 

Nobody gets the mileage that the EPA estimates

 

Most members of the Chicago Prius Group achieve or exceed the EPA mileage. Please take the time to visit our “Mileage Logs” section.

 
 

 

 

Only hippies and environmentalists are interested in hybrids

 

Here are some snippets from President G.W. Bush's State of the Union addresses:

January 23, 2007

 

Extending hope and opportunity depends on a stable supply of energy that keeps America's economy running and America's environment clean. For too long our nation has been dependent on foreign oil. And this dependence leaves us more vulnerable to hostile regimes, and to terrorists -- who could cause huge disruptions of oil shipments, and raise the price of oil, and do great harm to our economy.
We need to press on with battery research for plug-in and hybrid vehicles, and expand the use of clean diesel vehicles and biodiesel fuel.  We must continue investing in new methods of producing ethanol -- using everything from wood chips to grasses, to agricultural wastes.
We made a lot of progress, thanks to good policies here in Washington and the strong response of the market. And now even more dramatic advances are within reach. Tonight, I ask Congress to join me in pursuing a great goal. Let us build on the work we've done and reduce gasoline usage in the United States by 20 percent in the next 10 years.  When we do that we will have cut our total imports by the equivalent of three-quarters of all the oil we now import from the Middle East.

January 31, 2006

Keeping America competitive requires affordable energy. And here we have a serious problem: America is addicted to oil, which is often imported from unstable parts of the world. The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper, and more reliable alternative energy sources -- and we are on the threshold of incredible advances.
We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars, and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We'll also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn, but from wood chips and stalks, or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years.
Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum-based economy, and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past. 

February 2, 2005

To keep our economy growing, we also need reliable supplies of affordable, environmentally responsible energy.  Nearly four years ago, I submitted a comprehensive energy strategy that encourages conservation, alternative sources, a modernized electricity grid, and more production here at home -- including safe, clean nuclear energy.  My Clear Skies legislation will cut power plant pollution and improve the health of our citizens.  And my budget provides strong funding for leading-edge technology -- from hydrogen-fueled cars, to clean coal, to renewable sources such as ethanol.  Four years of debate is enough: I urge Congress to pass legislation that makes America more secure and less dependent on foreign energy.

January 20, 2004

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run -- so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

January 28, 2003

Join me in this important innovation to make our air significantly cleaner, and our country much less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

January 29, 2002

Good jobs also depend on reliable and affordable energy.  This Congress must act to encourage conservation, promote technology, build infrastructure, and it must act to increase energy production at home so America is less dependent on foreign oil

 
 

 

 

I'm not concerned with the cost of crude oil and gasoline

 

This chart is from GasBuddy.com and shows the cost of Crude Oil and Gasoline in the United States for the last 5 years.